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Orthodox Chrisitans why did we selct December 25th?

As we don't know when Christ was born why did we selcect December 25th?
I've figured it was two reasons
1.) Pascha is in the spring so we wanted to mark his birth in a difern time of the year so we would have time to go through his life in the liturgy.
2.) we probably felt it was easier to take the symbols of the winter and changed them into icons of Christ's birth.
your thoughts?

Good Question.. WE CELEBRATE DECEMBER 25/ TO KEEP THE DAY AS A HOLIDAY .. AS WAS. BUT CHRISTIANIZE IT . ( NOT RIGHT)
The Romans celebrated Saturnalia, a feast named for Saturn, god of agriculture, on December 21, the winter solstice in the northern hemisphere. They believed the shortest day of the year was the birthday of the sun. The Roman emperor Constantine was a member of the sun-cult before converting to Christianity in 312.

Some scholars suspect that Christians chose to celebrate Christ's birth on December 25 to make it easier to convert the pagan tribes. Referring to Jesus as the "light of the world" also fit with existing pagan beliefs about the birth of the sun. The ancient "return of the sun" philosophy had been replaced by the "coming of the son" message of Christianity

http://www.infoplease.com/spot/christmas1.html

I ALSO CELEBRATE JANUARY 7,, BLESSED BIRTH OF CHRIST REMEMBRANCE
We celebrate our Orthodox and Feast of the Eve of the Nativity Jan 7/ Feast of the Nativity on January 7. Eastern Orthodoxy
Orthodoxy

http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/christianity/subdivisions/easternorthodox_1.shtml#section_6

Greeks Celebrate it on December 25/ Since no Specific Date Greeks Celebrate with rest of the World.
I was just in our Greek Church for Nativity Eve Liturgy..Praising God. Beautiful Spiritual and Uplifting
We touch God ( Three Hour Liturgy)
Holy Trinity Greek Orthodox Church ( Toronto)

However Christ is said to Be Born Not in this Time.
And Sheppards Watched Their Flock By Night
Read Age of Reason By Will Durant.. ( great Stuff ) re dates)

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_there_any_proof_that_Jesus_Christ_is_born_on_December_25

http://www.ancient-future.net/christmasdate.html

Christ is Born Praise Him.
Kala Christougenna Ki'eftihismenos O Kenourios Chronos Greek

XRUCTOC RODULCIA ..SLAVITE UOHO
Pozdravlyau s prazdnikom Rozhdestva i c Novym Godom

http://www.holytrinity.ws/

The Main Thesis is GOD IS BORN AND CAME TO GIVE US EVERLASTING LIFE.
WE SHOULD CELEBRATE THIS THESIS ALWAYS
AND MAN SHALL LIVE FOREVER MORE BECAUSE WE ARE GIVEN ZOE.

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